1 No. Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:39 pm
Tempest
Heaven's Guard
Members of TWA:
We can't simply give up our academy, toss it around and throw it away like trash. Look at all of our hard work. You can't simply kill it. As stated by Amy to Finly:
"Hello Finly.
I am usually a nice person and always ready for cooperation. However, when I see stuff I personally spent hours or days to make and think, I become the opposite. You ask me now what did PRA copy from us. You as head admin there, do you really not see any connections? Let me enlighten your path. When someone steals the GFX content made by someone else, that is considered stealing and goes against forumotion's terms of use. Same way goes for the code which includes html, css, javascript and everything else included. Same way, a person spent time coding it, a person used knowledge and skill to do it. And of course using that code, or even large portion of it is also considered stealing. The stuff forumotion announced as their own, the tricks of code there can be used without any harm. However, the custom codes some websites have cannot be ripped off just like that. It goes also against forumotion's terms of use and can get you easily into trouble of shutting down your site if we enforce litigation at forumotion. Now to things your site has copied from us, or lets say things that are slightly modified not to look 100% same but 90%.
1. Can you see your menu in the widgets? Now go to your TWA and see their menu. TWA's menu and DA's menu have no connections, however menu at PRA just changed the hover color that's all. It looks same to us.
2. In your posts, look at the profile of members. Pure copy of DA's profile. Yeah, we did a great job in making it. It took me many hours to tune it to look so pro. However, I am really sorry but you can only get that in DA, I don't want to see my super coded profile somewhere else. Dex, had similar concept in TWA, but he changed few things there. But, Dex had permission from me to use parts of my code as he was our friend and did GFX for DA too. We had cooperation. Me and PRA don't have any cooperation and you cannot take anything from my code. Same way I spent time to code it, go and code something yourself, there are millions of different designs for forums in the world. Why does your profile have to look same like mine?! It doesn't.
3. Just take a loot at your html pages and find DA Main Shop there. I don't know how it is called at your academy, but the page is pure copy of ours. ADA had almost same shop as we have but Crocodile, their main admin was my close friend and he got my support, I even helped him code it. You cannot do that.
Since you put your forum under construction right now, I cannot go further with examples. This is as far as I could remember, the big things.
From all my codes, rankings code is one of the things very important to me. Even Dex or Croc were not allowed to use it, even as friends. Please, do not use it, this is my suggestion.
Now about DA and PRA. We will never be any kind of friends, that is for sure. DAD, ADA, TWA, DGA, WDA were all our friends. We even helped them many times. But, those academies were never doing anything like taking our content or ripping our ideas without our own permission. I know it is very hard not to take anything from the academy which has set standards to academy world, but it is how it is, if you want to live alongside and share the academy ground, go your own path, like our friends did.
Also, things in TWA are not your property. Dex is still the founder and by that the head of that website. Him being absent, gives no admin the right to do such thing to close it down or publicly tell members to go to another academy, aka merging. In DA eyes, what you admins did was desperate move, you could not bring TWA back to life, failed at it and want an easier approach, you just care to be admins no matter where, so only like that you could accept moving to another site leaving all that work of Dex there, to rust. I will speak with Dex about this to see did he give any permission to you to do this.
I want to tell you one more thing, as an experienced admin, this Finly is not a way to become a great admin. If you continue to go such path, I'm afraid you will only put dirt to your name and no site will want to be involved with you. The right path was to try and revive TWA. If you managed to do that, then people would see a great person in you, now they can only see a snake, which is pretty sad :/
I am sorry to speak like this with you, but the recent events caused me to."
We cannot just leave. **** you Finly and PK ._.
We can't simply give up our academy, toss it around and throw it away like trash. Look at all of our hard work. You can't simply kill it. As stated by Amy to Finly:
"Hello Finly.
I am usually a nice person and always ready for cooperation. However, when I see stuff I personally spent hours or days to make and think, I become the opposite. You ask me now what did PRA copy from us. You as head admin there, do you really not see any connections? Let me enlighten your path. When someone steals the GFX content made by someone else, that is considered stealing and goes against forumotion's terms of use. Same way goes for the code which includes html, css, javascript and everything else included. Same way, a person spent time coding it, a person used knowledge and skill to do it. And of course using that code, or even large portion of it is also considered stealing. The stuff forumotion announced as their own, the tricks of code there can be used without any harm. However, the custom codes some websites have cannot be ripped off just like that. It goes also against forumotion's terms of use and can get you easily into trouble of shutting down your site if we enforce litigation at forumotion. Now to things your site has copied from us, or lets say things that are slightly modified not to look 100% same but 90%.
1. Can you see your menu in the widgets? Now go to your TWA and see their menu. TWA's menu and DA's menu have no connections, however menu at PRA just changed the hover color that's all. It looks same to us.
2. In your posts, look at the profile of members. Pure copy of DA's profile. Yeah, we did a great job in making it. It took me many hours to tune it to look so pro. However, I am really sorry but you can only get that in DA, I don't want to see my super coded profile somewhere else. Dex, had similar concept in TWA, but he changed few things there. But, Dex had permission from me to use parts of my code as he was our friend and did GFX for DA too. We had cooperation. Me and PRA don't have any cooperation and you cannot take anything from my code. Same way I spent time to code it, go and code something yourself, there are millions of different designs for forums in the world. Why does your profile have to look same like mine?! It doesn't.
3. Just take a loot at your html pages and find DA Main Shop there. I don't know how it is called at your academy, but the page is pure copy of ours. ADA had almost same shop as we have but Crocodile, their main admin was my close friend and he got my support, I even helped him code it. You cannot do that.
Since you put your forum under construction right now, I cannot go further with examples. This is as far as I could remember, the big things.
From all my codes, rankings code is one of the things very important to me. Even Dex or Croc were not allowed to use it, even as friends. Please, do not use it, this is my suggestion.
Now about DA and PRA. We will never be any kind of friends, that is for sure. DAD, ADA, TWA, DGA, WDA were all our friends. We even helped them many times. But, those academies were never doing anything like taking our content or ripping our ideas without our own permission. I know it is very hard not to take anything from the academy which has set standards to academy world, but it is how it is, if you want to live alongside and share the academy ground, go your own path, like our friends did.
Also, things in TWA are not your property. Dex is still the founder and by that the head of that website. Him being absent, gives no admin the right to do such thing to close it down or publicly tell members to go to another academy, aka merging. In DA eyes, what you admins did was desperate move, you could not bring TWA back to life, failed at it and want an easier approach, you just care to be admins no matter where, so only like that you could accept moving to another site leaving all that work of Dex there, to rust. I will speak with Dex about this to see did he give any permission to you to do this.
I want to tell you one more thing, as an experienced admin, this Finly is not a way to become a great admin. If you continue to go such path, I'm afraid you will only put dirt to your name and no site will want to be involved with you. The right path was to try and revive TWA. If you managed to do that, then people would see a great person in you, now they can only see a snake, which is pretty sad :/
I am sorry to speak like this with you, but the recent events caused me to."
We cannot just leave. **** you Finly and PK ._.